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Main point summary
Many disciples rejected Jesus but the 12, except Judas, believed His deity and kept following because Jesus chose them.
Notes
6:60-66 The more the revelation about His deity the greater the rejection and offense of the followers who saw only a good man in Jesus. 6:67-71 It appears that the belief of Jesus's deity kept the 12 on continuing to following Him. This passage shows that only God's chosen once will believe. Very humbling for every Christian! Why me? It is for no good in me but alone by God's grace.
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John 6:60-71
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Therefore many of His disciples, when they heard this, said,
Then many of his disciples, when they heard these things, 99 said, “This is a difficult 100 saying! 101 Who can understand it?” 102
Empört sagten viele seiner Jünger: »Was er da redet, ist eine Zumutung! Wie kann man von jemand verlangen, sich so etwas anzuhören?«
“This is a hard saying;
who can understand it?”
inference
ideaexplanation
When Jesus knew in Himself
When Jesus was aware 103 that his disciples were complaining 104 about this, he said to them, “Does this cause you to be offended? 105
Jesus war sich bewusst, dass die Jünger über seine Worte empört waren. »Daran nehmt ihr Anstoß?«, fragte er sie.
that His disciples complained about this,
He said to them,
“Does this offend you?
What then if you should see the Son of Man ascend
Then what if you see the Son of Man ascending where he was before? 106
»Und ´was werdet ihr sagen,` wenn ihr den Menschensohn in den Himmel zurückkehren seht, dorthin, wo er vorher war?
where He was before?
locative
It is the Spirit who gives life;
The Spirit is the one who gives life; human nature is of no help! 107 The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and are life. 108
Der Geist ist es, der lebendig macht; das Fleisch ist dazu nicht fähig. Die Worte, die ich zu euch geredet habe, sind Geist und sind Leben.
the flesh profits nothing.
negativepositive
The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.
But there are some of you who do not believe.”
But there are some of you who do not believe.” (For Jesus had already known from the beginning who those were who did not believe, and who it was who would betray him.) 109
Aber es sind einige unter euch, die glauben nicht.« Jesus wusste nämlich von Anfang an, wer die waren, die nicht glaubten, und wusste auch, wer es war, der ihn verraten würde.
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For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who would betray Him.
ground
And He said,
So Jesus added, 110 “Because of this I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has allowed him to come.” 111
Er schloss mit den Worten: »Aus diesem Grund habe ich zu euch gesagt: Niemand kann von sich selbst aus zu mir kommen; es kann nur durch das Wirken des Vaters geschehen.«
“Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me
unless it has been granted to him by My Father.”
conditional
From that time many of His disciples went back
After this many of his disciples quit following him 112 and did not accompany him 113 any longer.
Von da an zogen sich viele seiner Jünger von ihm zurück und begleiteten ihn nicht mehr.
and walked with Him no more.
progression
Then Jesus said to the twelve,
So Jesus said to the twelve, “You don’t want to go away too, do you?” 114
Da fragte Jesus die Zwölf: »Wollt ihr etwa auch weggehen?« –
“Do you also want to go away?”
But Simon Peter answered Him,
Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom would we go? You have the words of eternal life.
»Herr, zu wem sollten wir gehen?«, antwortete Simon Petrus. »Du hast Worte, die zum ewigen Leben führen,
“Lord, to whom shall we go?
You have the words of eternal life.
Also we have come to believe and know
We 115 have come to believe and to know 116 that you are the Holy One of God!” 117
und wir glauben und haben erkannt, dass du der Heilige bist, den Gott gesandt hat.«
that You are the Christ,
the Son of the living God.”
questionanswer
Jesus answered them,
Jesus replied, 118 “Didn’t I choose you, the twelve, and yet one of you is the devil?” 119
Daraufhin sagte Jesus zu ihnen: »Habe ich nicht euch alle zwölf erwählt? Und doch ist einer von euch ein Teufel!«
“Did I not choose you, the twelve,
and one of you is a devil?”
He spoke of Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon,
(Now he said this about Judas son of Simon Iscariot, 120 for Judas, 121 one of the twelve, was going to betray him.) 122
Er meinte damit Judas, den Sohn von Simon Iskariot. Denn Judas, einer der Zwölf, war es, der ihn später verriet.
for it was he who would betray Him, being one of the twelve.
[52] Then the Jews began to argue with one another, saying, “How can this man give us His flesh to eat?” (John 6:52 NASB) At first the Jews complained but now also many that followed Jesus.
But Jesus on his part did not entrust himself to them, because he knew all people [25] and needed no one to bear witness about man, for he himself knew what was in man. (John 2:24-25 ESV) What Jesus knew back in chapter 2 came into effect here.
Thus it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit. (1 Corinthians 15:45 ESV) Link to Paul's teaching in the Corinthians 30+ years later.
That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. (John 3:6 ESV) Clear distinction between natural and spiritual life.
No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day. [45] It is written in the Prophets, ‘And they will all be taught by God.’ Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to me— (John 6:44-45 ESV)
“Go and stand in the temple and speak to the people all the words of this Life.” (Acts 5:20 ESV) Years later, an angel referred to Jesus words when he appeared to Paul in Jerusalem's prison.
Nathanael answered him, “Rabbi, you are the Son of God! You are the King of Israel!” (John 1:49 ESV) Nathanael's confession in chapter 1.
I am not speaking of all of you; I know whom I have chosen. But the Scripture will be fulfilled, ‘He who ate my bread has lifted his heel against me.’ (John 13:18 ESV) In reference to Judas
During supper, when the devil had already put it into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon’s son, to betray him, (John 13:2 ESV) The Lord referred to Judas.
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John 6:60-71
Therefore many of His disciples, ... said,
when they heard this,
Temporal of when they said this
“This is a hard saying;
Content of what they said
who can understand it?”
Ground for why it is a hard saying
When Jesus knew
Temporal of when Jesus answered
in Himself
Locative of knew
that His disciples complained about this,
Content of knew
He said to them,
Answer to what the disciples said
“Does this offend you?
Comparison to the offense when they get to know more about Jesus
What then if you should see the Son of Man ascend
Content of said
where He was
Locative of Son of Man
before?
Temporal of Son of Man
It is the Spirit who gives life;
Explanation of how one comes to Him
the flesh profits nothing.
Reference to life
The words that I speak to you are spirit,
Accompaniment of the Spirits work
and they are life.
But there are some of you
Result
who do not believe.”
For Jesus knew
Explanation for how He could say that
from the beginning
Temporal of when He knew
who they were
who did not believe,
and who would betray Him.
And He said,
Reference
“Therefore I have said to you
Ground for their offense
that no one can come to Me
Content of the Ground
unless it has been granted to him
Condition of who can come
by My Father.”
Agent of granting
From that time
Temporal
many of His disciples went back
and walked with Him no more.
Then Jesus said to the twelve,
“Do you also want to go away?”
Content
But Simon Peter answered Him,
Answer
“Lord, to whom shall we go?
You have the words of eternal life.
Ground #1
Also we have come to believe
Ground #2
and know that You are the Christ,
the Son of the living God.”
Jesus answered them,
“Did I not choose you,
the twelve,
Explanation
and one of you is a devil?”
Concessive
He spoke of Judas Iscariot,
the son of Simon,
for it was he
Ground
who would betray Him,
being one of the twelve.
Context
The Jews had rejected Jesus. More revelation about His deity would manifest their unbelieve in even greater offense.
phrasing