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Jeannie Koh
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LAB184 The Future Hope for Suffering
1 Peter 5:10-11
LAB182 The Art of War Part 2
1 Peter 5:8-10
LAB181 The Art of War Part 1
1 Peter 5:8-9
The Tale of Two Covenants
Hebrews 8:1-9:10
LAB180 Ways to cross-reference to understand a passage rightly
1 Peter 5:8-9
LAB177 God's Grace means I just sit back and relax? Hah! Think Again!!
1 Peter 5:7-9
LAB176 Three Ways to Fight Anxiety
1 Peter 5:7-8
LAB175 Why Romans 5:21 refers to imputed righteousness
Romans 5:20-6:2
LAB174 God relieves the humble of their fears
1 Peter 5:6-7
LAB170 Reading the passage supernaturally
1 Peter 5:2-3
LAB168 Reading Narratives to See Truths
Acts 16:19-31
LAB165 The Surpassing Wonder of the Truth of Election
Acts 13:46-49
LAB165 The Importance of Forming a Worldview
1 Peter 4:12-19
LAB161 Divine Conception and the Joyful Purpose of Christ's Arrival
Matthew 1:18-25
LAB159 Seven Ways God honours us so we don't have to be ashamed for being Christians
1 Peter 4:16
LAB158 A Simple Verse With More Than Meets The Eye
1 Peter 4:15
LAB157 God Gives Us A Taste of Future Glory Now
1 Peter 4:14
LAB156 A Tale of Two Joys
1 Peter 4:13
LAB155 Using Word Searches to Understand Persecution in Peter
1 Peter 4:12
LAB154 Complaining in the right spirit
Jeremiah 12:1
LAB153 Don't Miss the Wonder of an Introduction
Galatians 1:3-5
Ask Questions to Reveal the Text's Dense Logic
1 Peter 4:10-11
LAB150 The Jigsaw Puzzle of Change
2 Corinthians 3:15-18
LAB148 Mine Within the Immediate Context First
1 Peter 4:10
LAB147 To See Requires God's Extraordinary Power
2 Corinthians 4:6-7
LAB146 Using varied contexts to understand godly hospitality
1 Peter 4:9
LAB145 How love helps cover sins by others
1 Peter 4:8
LAB144 The Levels of A Doxology
Romans 11:33-36
LAB143 Using Search Tool for Big Ideas like "Last Days"
1 Peter 4:7
LAB142 Praying after God's WORD when dealing with sin
Psalms 19:12-13
LAB141 Ground, Context and Logic to Determine Who the Dead are
1 Peter 4:6
LAB140 Loving Enemies and Trusting God's Justice
1 Peter 4:5
LAB139 Holiness defined by context, in part
1 Thessalonians 4:11-13
LAB138 The Inference that Leads to Meaningful Work
1 Corinthians 15:58
LAB137 The Ground For Not Boasting in Men
1 Corinthians 3:21-23
LAB136 What baptism has to do with salvation
1 Peter 3:21-22
LAB135 Show the World A Life Worth Living
1 Peter 4:3-4
LAB 134 Living for Godly Passions
1 Peter 4:2
LAB133 Who Are The Antichrists
1 John 2:18-19
LAB132 Christ died to make us dead to sin
1 Peter 4:1
LAB131 Can a True Christian Fall Away from God?
1 John 2:19
LAB130 Decrypting Confusing Bible Verses
1 Peter 3:19-20
LAB 129 It is the LORD who raises us up after we fall into sin
Micah 7:7-9
LAB128 Jesus Came to Ultimately Glorify God
Romans 15:8-9
LAB127 The Prayer for Fearless Contentment
Philippians 4:6-7
LAB126 No Other God
Deuteronomy 33:26-27
LAB125 How the OT Promises is Ours
Isaiah 41:10
LAB124 Prepare Your Heart for Cancer
1 Thessalonians 5:9-11
LAB123 The Cross is to Bring Us to God
1 Peter 3:18
LAB122 The Keys to Knowing How to Live
Psalms 100:1-5
LAB121  God Wills Sin Done Against Us Without Sinning
1 Peter 3:17
LAB120 Meditating on the Word
James 3:17-18
LAB119 Treasure Jesus More than Safety
1 Peter 3:14-16
LAB118 God's blessings in suffering
1 Peter 3:14
LAB117 Sovereign God May Harm Us for Ultimate Good
1 Peter 3:13
LAB116 Love Your Enemies for Your Own Sake
1 Peter 3:9-12
LAB115 The Heart of the Christian Faith
Colossians 2:13-14
LAB114 How can we bless those who revile us?
1 Peter 3:8-9
LAB113 God Blesses Us to Bless the World
Psalms 67:1-7
LAB112 Election Gives Evangelism Power
2 Timothy 2:8-10
LAB111 Do Not Diminish God's Love for You
1 Thessalonians 1:2-7
LAB110 Your Prayers Hang on Your Marriage
1 Peter 3:7
LAB 109 Believe God more than my pain and loss
John 11:1-6
LAB108 The Saving Power of a Fearless Wife
1 Peter 3:1-6
LAB107 Saved by Grace But Not Without War
2 Timothy 2:8-13
Only by Christ's atonement and substitution, will I be able to follow Christ's example of doing good in responding to evil
1 Peter 2:21-25
God's Wise Sayings are delightfully trustworthy
Proverbs 22:17-19
God is Faithful to Himself Above All Else
2 Timothy 2:11-13
Do good when mistreated, keeping God and His reward in mind.
1 Peter 2:18-20
LAB102 Live on Earth as Citizens of Heaven
1 Peter 2:13-17
LAB101 Holy God became like us
Philippians 2:3-8
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LAB160 Saved Through the Fire of Suffering
1 Peter 4:17-18
LAB160 The Ground for Seeking Purity of Faith in Suffering
Published May 5th, 2017
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1 Peter 4:17-18
See #2 below: This "for" means this following verses are the ground for the preceding v 16. That is the ground for why we should pursue purity and authenticity of faith in suffering.
it is time for judgment to begin at the household of God;
See #1 below: This judgement is for believers which is a purifying one, not a condemning one.
The time for this judgement begins when Christ came,
and if it begins with us,
See #3 below: There are two rhetorical questions which show that the ungodly and sinners will not be saved, their end will be terrible
what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God?
And “If the righteous is scarcely saved,
See #4 below. 4:17 d is an allusion. 4:18 a-b is a quotation. Main idea is whether the suffering is the enormous end time suffering alluded to in 4:17d, or the suffering that occurs in the course of daily ordinary life as proverbially observed in the quotation of 4:18, God saves His people in suffering. And we are not to feel singled out.
what will become of the ungodly and the sinner?”
Refer to following webpages: #1 JUDGMENT 1 Peter 4:6 Judgment something God does on His own people not for their destruction but or their life. 1 Peter 1:17 Judgement that includes christians 1 Peter 4:17-18 the judgement of the ungodly and sinner is to not be saved What is the judgement for believers in 1 Peter 4:17-18? 1 Peter 1:6-7 Judgement is the various trials for purification not condemnation These trials could result in our death Household of God: 1 Peter 2:15 spiritual house=household of people people of God "time for judgement to begin": Referring to the coming of Christ 1 Peter 4:7 Jesus ushers in the end of all things. John 9:39 Jesus comes for judgement. Depending on how a person responds to Jesus, that person is judged accordingly. Luke 2:34 Jesus is the great dividing person John 3:17 Jesus did not come to condemn but in Him the world is divided John 5:24 The judgement for believers is not one who takes away eternal life. It is a purifying judgement. Judgement has two parts also in 1 Peter 4:18 -- the saved and the not saved. The judgement for believers is to purify not to condemn. Judgement for ungodly and sinners is to wait until the Day of Christ's return - a sign of God's great patience. #2 GROUND (For) FOR - three reasons to pursue purity and authenticity of faith See 1 Peter 4:16-17 Christians are suffering and this is part of the judgment of God 1) God is at work here in this suffering not just man. Man is not in charge 2) God uses His enemies to purify His people 2 Cor 12:7-10 3) God's purpose is purification not condemnation. Purification of faith 1 Peter 1:7, and life and sin, 1 Peter 4:1-2 Therefore join God in the pursuit of purity, authenticity in our suffering. #3 RHETORICAL QUESTIONS 1 Peter 4:17b-18 2 rhetorical questions: The statement behind question 1: The outcome of those who do not obey the gospel is terrible. See 2 Thess 1:7-9 those who do not obey the gospel, will suffer eternal destruction, away from presence and glory and might of the LORD. Statement behind question 2: Ungodly and sinners will not be saved. Christians have to suffer so much suffering, that it seems as if they got plucked out of this kind of judgement, scarcely said. Question 2 is OT allusion to Prov 11:31 1) Warnings to believers are needed and useful 2) Pity is awakened for unbelievers because of how terrible it's going to be for them 3) God is not to be trifled with 4) therefore, let our suffering as a believer seem light and short compared to eternal suffering #4 OT REFERENCES OT Allusions " if judgement begins with us..." "what will become of the ungodly" Ezekiel 9:4-6 , Jeremiah 25:29 Picture of big historical at the end. Disaster begins at the city of God or the sanctuary of God There is an end time focus OT Quotation: Prov 11:31 Proverbial wisdom, observation in the world Righteous people are repaid for discipline, how much more the sinners and wicked. Main idea: We are to see same end time truth in a proverb Summation: In end time global judgment, and in proverbial daily wisdom, God saves His people through suffering. Therefore if we are one of these sufferers, in daily ordinary experience or big end time judgment, both are in Peter's view. It is God who saves His people in suffering. We shouldn't feel singled out but should glorify God. If anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed but let him glorify God in that Name.
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