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Central Idea: None of this has been for Paul's sake (in self-defense) but for their sake; His fear is that things will be in such a mess when he arrives that it could all just explode into chaos, that nothing will have been addressed, not even the issues of immorality. Explanations / Questions: I suppose v.19a-b could be arced as Q-A: Q: Are we defending ourselves to you? A: No, we speak in the sight of God. However, I've arced this as Sit-R because Paul is anticipating a certain reaction to what he has said in the preceding paragraphs and is responding preemptively to their doubts over his intentions. v. 20, Paul's fear is not only that he may not find them as he wants, but also, "that you may find me not as you wish." He then describes the potentially ugly situation. Question: Does the 'second' fear refer to Paul's potentially harsh dealing with the junk then described (cf. 10:2,6)? Or, is Paul acknowledging the frustration in both 'parties' and the potential discord that may result? NLT takes the first track, while the Message takes the second. The ESV, NASB, KJV, and NIV all retain the ambiguity.

10000000005352 5352 Notes 2009-03-06 13:18:50 2009-03-14 13:38:12 Central Idea: None of this has been for Paul's sake (in self-defense) but for their sake; His fear is that things will be in such a mess when he arrives that it could all just explode into chaos, that nothing will have been addressed, not even the issues of immorality. Explanations / Questions: I suppose v.19a-b could be arced as Q-A: Q: Are we defending ourselves to you? A: No, we speak in the sight of God. However, I've arced this as Sit-R because Paul is anticipating a certain reaction to what he has said in the preceding paragraphs and is responding preemptively to their doubts over his intentions. v. 20, Paul's fear is not only that he may not find them as he wants, but also, "that you may find me not as you wish." He then describes the potentially ugly situation. Question: Does the 'second' fear refer to Paul's potentially harsh dealing with the junk then described (cf. 10:2,6)? Or, is Paul acknowledging the frustration in both 'parties' and the potential discord that may result? NLT takes the first track, while the Message takes the second. The ESV, NASB, KJV, and NIV all retain the ambiguity. notes

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2 Corinthians

2 Corinthians 12:19-21

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πάλαι δοκεῖτε ὅτι ὑμῖν ἀπολογούμεθα

Have you been thinking all along that we have been defending ourselves to you?

κατέναντι θεοῦ ἐν Χριστῷ λαλοῦμεν

It is in the sight of God that we have been speaking in Christ,

τὰ δὲ πάντα ἀγαπητοί ὑπὲρ τῆς ὑμῶν οἰκοδομῆς

and all for your upbuilding, beloved.

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φοβοῦμαι γὰρ μή πως ἐλθὼν οὐχ οἵους θέλω εὕρω ὑμᾶς

For I fear that perhaps when I come I may find you not as I wish,

κἀγὼ εὑρεθῶ ὑμῖν οἷον οὐ θέλετε

and that you may find me not as you wish--

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μή πως ἔρις ζῆλος θυμοί ἐριθείαι καταλαλιαί ψιθυρισμοί φυσιώσεις ἀκαταστασίαι

that perhaps there may be quarreling, jealousy, anger, hostility, slander, gossip, conceit, and disorder.

μὴ πάλιν ἐλθόντος μου ταπεινώσῃ με ὁ θεός μου πρὸς ὑμᾶς

I fear that when I come again my God may humble me before you,

καὶ πενθήσω πολλοὺς τῶν προημαρτηκότων καὶ μὴ μετανοησάντων ἐπὶ τῇ ἀκαθαρσίᾳ καὶ πορνείᾳ καὶ ἀσελγείᾳ ᾗ ἔπραξαν

and I may have to mourn over many of those who sinned earlier and have not repented of the impurity, sexual immorality, and sensuality that they have practiced.

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10000000005352 5352 Arc 2009-03-06 13:18:50 2012-06-29 19:02:43 editing 2 Corinthians 12 19 12 21 2 Corinthians 12:19-21 47 NT tisch esv i77181 i77182 i77173 πάλαι δοκεῖτε ὅτι ὑμῖν ἀπολογούμεθα Have you been thinking all along that we have been defending ourselves to you? i77183 i77174 κατέναντι θεοῦ ἐν Χριστῷ λαλοῦμεν It is in the sight of God that we have been speaking in Christ, i77175 τὰ δὲ πάντα ἀγαπητοί ὑπὲρ τῆς ὑμῶν οἰκοδομῆς and all for your upbuilding, beloved. progression situationresponse 2 i77184 i77185 i77176 φοβοῦμαι γὰρ μή πως ἐλθὼν οὐχ οἵους θέλω εὕρω ὑμᾶς For I fear that perhaps when I come I may find you not as I wish, i77177 κἀγὼ εὑρεθῶ ὑμῖν οἷον οὐ θέλετε and that you may find me not as you wish-- series i77186 i77178 μή πως ἔρις ζῆλος θυμοί ἐριθείαι καταλαλιαί ψιθυρισμοί φυσιώσεις ἀκαταστασίαι that perhaps there may be quarreling, jealousy, anger, hostility, slander, gossip, conceit, and disorder. i77179 μὴ πάλιν ἐλθόντος μου ταπεινώσῃ με ὁ θεός μου πρὸς ὑμᾶς I fear that when I come again my God may humble me before you, i77180 καὶ πενθήσω πολλοὺς τῶν προημαρτηκότων καὶ μὴ μετανοησάντων ἐπὶ τῇ ἀκαθαρσίᾳ καὶ πορνείᾳ καὶ ἀσελγείᾳ ᾗ ἔπραξαν and I may have to mourn over many of those who sinned earlier and have not repented of the impurity, sexual immorality, and sensuality that they have practiced. series ideaexplanation 1 ground 1 1 1 1 tisch 25 esv 25 a 50 discourse